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So, I've been doing a lot of research tonight about a topic that has seriously offended me that I just learned about. And now I'm going to pass on all of the information I found to you, my lovely f-list.

This is an awareness post. For those of you (in the U.S.) who don't know, the Department of Homeland Security's head, Janet Napolitano, has placed into effect new security measures at airport security. These measures include a "scanning procedure" which includes a machine with harmful x-rays that are focused on just your skin layer, which has not been sufficiently tested to be proven safe for your health, and which has been lied about and advertised as healthy based on the wave concentration if the xrays were going through your whole body instead of just backscattering off your skin. This machine is intended to see through your clothes, take a picture of you naked, and insure that you are not carrying weapons onto the plane with you.

You are, of course, permitted to opt out of this if you're uncomfortable with the machine itself or with the idea of having a naked picture of yourself taken. Go figure. The alternative is an aggressive and invasive pat-down procedure that involves the TSA personnel -- the TSA, of course, being an association that is known to hire convicted felons and sex offenders -- palming your private areas including the groin and breasts of women and the groin of men. They are permitted to use their fingers and allegedly go over your groin area three times. They are permitted to go so far as to touch your labia -- through your clothes, of course -- and grab your breasts.

Well, gee, you might be thinking. If I got this far in airport security and decided I didn't want either, I'd just turn around and decide not to take my flight. You can't. Once you have gotten into the security procedure, you must complete it, regardless of whether you make the decision to no longer take your flight. One man tried and he was escorted off the premises and was slapped with a %10,000 fine.

These selections are entirely random, supposedly, but will be happening with increasing frequency and potentially come to include every customer of U.S. airlines -- whether they already cover every customer of a U.S. airline yet, I'm not entirely certain, because I couldn't find anything conclusive about it in any of the articles I read and I haven't gone flying since last Christmas. If you've been flying recently and have experienced this or know, lemme know?

Beneath the cut I've placed a plethora of informational links and videos that are where I mostly drew my information from. Videos are from both major news networks (CNN and Fox) for optimum partisan impartiality. It should be noted that this was never voted on. In fact, Napolitano was never voted into office -- Obama placed her there. So, someone we never voted into office felt the need to put into effect a major change in airport security that invades not only our implied right to privacy and inhibits our basic civil liberties, but directly violates the fourth amendment (protection against unreasonable search and seizure) and basic constitutional rights.

Why were these preemptive measures put into place? Napolitano says it's because of a failed terrorist attack from last Christmas that involved a man tucking a bomb into his underwear. First of all, the attack was a failure which means our current measures were apparently enough to put a stop to it. So why ramp them up? Not only that, but there's no conclusive evidence that these new x-ray machines would be able to pick up the bomb material that the man had apparently sewn into his underwear.

Anyone with holiday travel plans: I encourage you to, if at all possible, drive over flying. And if you fly, please make the choice to opt out of the scanning machine. For your own health, if nothing else. The more rigorous pat-downs take more time and will cause some serious back up at the airports, and hopefully encourage them to realize that these scanning machines are not okay.



Full explanation with quotes by Napolitano.

Info on the safety of the x-rays the "screening" machines use.

CNN coverage of the guy who refused to be pat down:


Fox news coverage of the guy who refused to be pat down (more in depth, I encourage you to watch both):


Article about a woman who experienced the "more rigorous, aggressive" pat-down.

First person account.

Basically I just really encourage all of you to look into this for yourselves. :( I personally became really upset when I read about it and I've become very actively trying to get people aware of it in hopes that some of the groups trying to organize a no-fly day on November 24th will succeed in knocking some sense into our crazy DHS, since it's usually the busiest day of travel. Here is one such site. The Fox news video includes information on another. Basically just ... please, please look into it, and don't let it happen to you.

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Date: 2010-11-22 12:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mochawhip.livejournal.com
I'm surprised that I haven't run into one of these machines yet considering how many times I fly each year, but I'll probably run into my first one this winter. My mom got it in New Mexico earlier this year and didn't really mind it, but they freak me out a little. I'm going to opt for a fun session of groping instead should I ever run into one, because seriously, no method is ever going to be perfect.

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Date: 2010-11-22 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arcesso.livejournal.com
I'm glad you haven't run into one yet, especially since I heard in ... one of the articles I read, idek, I went through 10 to find everything, I heard that Europe was doing it too. Miri says that Heathrow has these machines. 8( So you might find them on your Scottland end sometime soon, too. But, yeah, there's no way I'm cool with sacrificing liberty for security, especially when it's THAT MUCH LIBERTY and that questionable of security.

There's a video on youtube of a guy taking one of the pictures of the scans and inverting it in photoshop and it becomes a straight up nudie pic. It's ... horrible. ;_;

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Date: 2010-11-22 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] birds.livejournal.com
augh, i remember hearing about these machines a few years ago. a total invasion of privacy, and even if i can understand that they are just trying to "keep people safe", to what expense?

i suppose i have not been touched by this yet, considering the fact that i haven't flown in ... three years, but still. it's kind of scary to think about it being there the next time i do intend on traveling.

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Date: 2010-11-22 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arcesso.livejournal.com
yeah like i remember hearing about them but i assumed they'd be put to a vote or tested that they were safe on people's skin first or something and i just ...

ugh. not okay.

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Date: 2010-11-22 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] birds.livejournal.com
seriously. hm, i wonder if they're in connecticut terminals yet. i should ask my sister, since she recently went to see her boyfriend thing in florida for a week. i'm sure if they were here she would have mentioned them ... either way, if i end up in an airport and see one, there's going to be a fight. i may work with children and be groped all day long, but fuck if i'm going to let some grown man or woman touch me like that. fuck no.

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Date: 2010-11-22 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arcesso.livejournal.com
Yeah, and the thing is there were accounts where they said TSA officials can go so far as to grab and twist your tits and I'm like uh huh and this is supposed to get you a bomb ... how? It's not a 50 cent machine. They're only in like 60 airports right now but 1,000 more machines are being dispersed by the end of 2010 from what I understand.

But, yeah, I won't be flying again. Like, ever.

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Date: 2010-11-22 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] birds.livejournal.com
what the fuck. where the hell are you going to hide a bomb in your chest that allows people to treat you like a stretch toy? fuck that shit. seriously. if this isn't against one's rights i don't know what is.

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Date: 2010-11-22 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arcesso.livejournal.com
Yeah I miss my fourth amendment right, that's for sure. And I don't like that unelected officials can put in a non-voted policy that infringes upon it. Hopefully this Tyner guy who is getting fined and suing them will win in court and it'll go to the Supreme Court and make them illegal.

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Date: 2010-11-22 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] birds.livejournal.com
seriously, what the fuck. i hope it goes to the supreme court. i mean, i am all for helping makes flights safer, but not this. no way.

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Date: 2010-11-22 04:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dancinpenguins
/never flies again

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Date: 2010-11-22 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arcesso.livejournal.com
this is me.

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Date: 2010-11-22 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] youngavenger.livejournal.com
I love how I tell my Mom all this and she doesn't react XD she thinks its all okay.

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Date: 2010-11-22 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arcesso.livejournal.com
LMFAO WHAT. WHAT EVEN.

Tell her that Ben Franklin said that people who are willing to sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither liberty nor security. X(

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Date: 2010-11-22 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muggles.livejournal.com
When I flew out the weekend of Halloween, the pat downs weren't optional at all. They did them to everyone, and it was very very very humiliating for me to get it done, even though everyone else was too. Babies, toddlers, and children all were getting the pat downs too, which didn't seem right at all to me.

Thanks for putting this all together, though, I was curious about it after they first announced all of this happening.

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Date: 2010-11-22 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arcesso.livejournal.com
Yeah there are videos on YouTube of three years olds and eight year olds getting it. I read a story about a pilot taking his 18-year-old daughter through security and he overheard a TSA worker saying "oh we've got a pretty one" as they were approaching the scanners.

So, you didn't have the option to just go through the scanner instead of getting the aggressive patdown?

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Date: 2010-11-22 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] muggles.livejournal.com
Nope. Maybe the terminal we were flying out of didn't have one (which is unlikely) or they were just not running it that day, but no one in my line was given a choice.

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Date: 2010-11-22 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xxaxellexx.livejournal.com
When I flew to Nashville from San Diego during Halloween weekend I remember seeing the body scanner machines in both airports, but they were not operational yet. These things looked like huge expensive wastes of time when I saw them and just thought about how much more time it's going to take getting through security when they are up and running.

These machines are absolutely 100% unconstitutional and they even violate child pornography laws. Stuff like that really makes you think. What are pregnant women going to do and people with prosthetics and surgical implants?

Some of the body scanner images I've seen you can actually see people's arm and legs bones. That is completely unsafe. /fumes lol

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Date: 2010-11-22 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arcesso.livejournal.com
In the Fox news video there's a woman who had both knees replaced who had to always go through them because anyone who fails the metal detector is forced to and she was just so horrified by how degrading it was. It's bullshit. And it's even more bullshit that they didn't have to ask us.

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Date: 2010-11-23 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreamoflight.livejournal.com
I did some more reading on it today, and the thing about the underwear bomber was that they had proof that he would plan something, but through incompetence his visa never got revoked, and that's how he got on the plane. HIS OWN FATHER called and said he was dangerous, and he was still allowed to board. And then the other passengers subdued him in the end.

So basically, before any sort of airport security failure, it was a massive, massive intelligence failure. And now this is sucking more money away from that department.

Also, there's another version of the same machine that uses some sort of radio wave instead of radiation, that's totally safe... and they're not using it because of some asinine reason like they don't want to rely on just one manufacturer for the machines.

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